tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27849118.post6550277022587724682..comments2024-03-18T21:57:42.202-07:00Comments on The Tipsy Baker: So who's really slagging who?tipsybakerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13796856700365644779noreply@blogger.comBlogger51125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27849118.post-50199340752992760842021-06-27T19:37:31.911-07:002021-06-27T19:37:31.911-07:00google 451
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My political statement is preserving old time knowledge and I think cooking , baking and feeding your family goes with that, too. It's not interfering with feminism, it's not reactive it's a way to show love and have fun and try something new.<br />Greetings, SusanneSusannenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27849118.post-65688337041700755282012-01-18T11:34:24.967-08:002012-01-18T11:34:24.967-08:00Thank you for this post! I read this article in th...Thank you for this post! I read this article in the NYT and just assumed that it sparked a firestorm of protest but hadn't followed up on it. This is a great response - I love to bake too, and can't stand that my hobby is being dragged into the Mommy wars either. Love your blog! (new reader) -GailGail Viechnickihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06429659185411737737noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27849118.post-5397647299247846882012-01-15T12:15:52.657-08:002012-01-15T12:15:52.657-08:00Yes!! You absolutely rock. I got into a big Faceb...Yes!! You absolutely rock. I got into a big Facebook kerfuffle over this with a friend who is a huge Waldman fan (as for me, I totally got where Steinhauer was coming from...including on potlucks, where I respectfully disagree with you). <br /><br />Thanks for an excellent post on this! :)Julia Magnusson (It's not like a cat...)http://notlikeacat.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27849118.post-74268506257566216012012-01-11T15:31:58.119-08:002012-01-11T15:31:58.119-08:00No matter whose side your on, it's always so s...No matter whose side your on, it's always so sad to see people wasting precious energy on making themselves feel superior to someone else. Some women bake cookies, others attend rallies, many do both. It's so pointless to fight over who is better than who. Plus, it really frustrates me to see women who enjoy doing stereotypically female things get raked over the coals for being un-feminist. As a woman I'm expected to ovulate, and I do. I guess that makes me a bad feminist too. So silly.Mary Helenhttp://marymakesdinner.typepad.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27849118.post-46316388085714692952012-01-10T07:10:53.333-08:002012-01-10T07:10:53.333-08:00Love it!! I don't have kids yet but I do bake ...Love it!! I don't have kids yet but I do bake & have chickens. When I do have kids, I will still bake & have a multitude of pets. Yes, it will be busy, yes my priorities are bound to change as a Mom, but REALLY?? Perhaps that author needs to brush up on her time management skills. I wouldn't buy Oreo's at a bake sale! You might as well just ask for donations, I give heartily when we can afford to to all the boy/girl scouts in our area & volunteer with a bunch of groups as well. Maybe as a feminist I just don't have time for her bullcrap- people insisting it can't be done shouldn't interrupt those doing the impossible!!!Bellahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07631390478604807656noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27849118.post-35307632760794753692012-01-10T00:22:19.857-08:002012-01-10T00:22:19.857-08:00I may be alone in my thinking, but I don't thi...I may be alone in my thinking, but I don't think that the real issue is bake sales. Waldman strikes me as one of those girls from junior high who would trash talk another girl because she really felt insecure about herself. I think that this woman's real issue is that she feels like she doesn't measure up to some standard in her own mind and so takes it out on those that she feels are "outperforming" her in some way. Which is really quite sad.Firefly Momhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09742562729182149224noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27849118.post-14932841393524370022012-01-09T23:17:16.114-08:002012-01-09T23:17:16.114-08:00ok, it is 11:15 at night, I get to make pizza shel...ok, it is 11:15 at night, I get to make pizza shells for my loving family now (as I have been cruising facebook since 10:45 and avoiding my responsibilities) and the pizza shells have to be made and cooked now since I won't be home until after 6 tomorrow so my dear loving Mr. P gets to make the pizzas. he is asleep now, as are the kids, as our lives are all skew jiff - and there is Never Ever ever any resentment in this house when baking happens. but right now I am feeling a bit grumpy about procrastination! ;-)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27849118.post-52707402812229708882012-01-09T16:09:20.502-08:002012-01-09T16:09:20.502-08:00I don't get sucked into the bakesale madness v...I don't get sucked into the bakesale madness very often, and I'm a dedicated baker. But my kids (being gluten-free) can't have most of the stuff being offered. Conversely, GF baked goods aren't exactly "in demand" with the non-GF crowd. So... there you are.<br /><br />Whether it's Oreos or Sprinkles cupcakes... it just seems to go against the grain. <br /><br />What I DON'T get is why people have such trouble saying, "Can't help with this one, catch me next time." Not EVERYBODY needs to contribute to EVERY fundraiser/activity/etc. If it's not your bag, it's not your bag.Hollyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04852883605754120475noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27849118.post-81360534845791172952012-01-09T07:32:59.488-08:002012-01-09T07:32:59.488-08:00I think you strike the right tone in your response...I think you strike the right tone in your response, though I disagree about bake sales. Along with potlucks I think we should just thank everyone for contributing what they can at any given time. As far as the other two authors and some of the comments go, yikes. Judgy McJudgerson and family in the house. When I feel superior to someone I remind myself I have NO idea what there life is like or what they are going through. Like watching TV automatically means a woman(person) is lazy or wasting time? Like bringing store bought cookies means someone doesn't care about their kids or isn't trying hard enough? I've been through some horrendously difficult times in my life, times when holding myself and my family together was about all I could manage. I took shortcuts. Bringing store bought cookies isn't the shortcut I took, because I like to bake, but I took other short cuts. Now I make candied lavender to decorate my cookies (or some domestic equivalent) but that also doesn't mean I don't contribute to society (I happen to run my own business as a media consultant for organizations working to address the political and economic crisis--take THAT Ayelet Waldman). Canning, making my own yogurt, tending my garden, and uber-domesticity centers me after days of soul wrenching political trench warfare. <br />My point is, I know some folks make their living judging, and for the rest of us it sometimes helps placate our own sense of "not good enough" but we really cannot know what is going on in another persons life. Judging them for bringing oreos to a bake sale, or for bringing home made thumbprint cookies topped with jam they made from the berries they picked and canned this summer--its pointless. And frankly, my heart breaks when I see the oreos. That parent (I've seen kids buy the cookies too when a parent is too dysfunctional to manage) wanted to contribute to their child's school bake sale. I guarantee you there is a good chance someone bringing oreos couldn't afford the bakery treats. Don't you think they KNOW you are judging them? Don't you think they worry about their child feeling not good enough?? Wouldn't it be better if we just said "thank you so much for taking the time to contribute to this effort to raise money for you child's school" to everyone who contributes, regardless of whether WE think it's adequate. <br /><br />(also, PS. got your book for Christmas--I bought it for myself!--read it cover to cover. Already made the yogurt and the bread. <3)JenEnglandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04187324279024758768noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27849118.post-76829206288774313552012-01-04T20:17:15.250-08:002012-01-04T20:17:15.250-08:00I feel so sorry for people who can't cook or w...I feel so sorry for people who can't cook or who think that preparing food at home is a waste of time. Cooking is essential to health. It is simply not possible to subsist on a diet of takeout, rotisserie chicken, frozen dinners, and processed food and expect to live in a vibrant, energetic body. <br />To me, baking is the edible intersection of art, science, and love. I'm usually quite a fan of Ayelet's but she got it wrong this time. <br /><br />Respect the cookie!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27849118.post-72809951050447097682012-01-04T08:50:30.624-08:002012-01-04T08:50:30.624-08:00I had a boyfriend in high school who’s mom was a f...I had a boyfriend in high school who’s mom was a full time corporate lawyer and she always had fresh baked cookies in the house. Contrast that with my own mom who didn’t work and never baked. In my experience baking is not about time its about enjoyment, if you enjoy baking you find time to do it.Katherinenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27849118.post-21081437821826980542012-01-03T12:18:57.374-08:002012-01-03T12:18:57.374-08:00Sure, the post is great and your perspective is ri...Sure, the post is great and your perspective is right on, but it's your use of "vituperative" that really deserves props. :-)shteevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07530892034903832225noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27849118.post-71506697809711068662011-12-30T08:32:16.466-08:002011-12-30T08:32:16.466-08:00OH my. Do people really assume that the bake sale...OH my. Do people really assume that the bake sale stuff has to be baked by "Mom", and that the only acceptable things provided need to be home baked? Personally I could care less what you provide- the idea behind the sale (generally speaking) is to raise funds for a worthy cause. Breaking it down into gender roles and homemade vs store bought is pointless. I would be looking for homemade treats, but I know other parents that would prefer the store bought type. Whatever floats your boat! I had not heard of the The Great Bake Sale Controversy until I stumbled upon your blog- thank you so much for defending the bakers!Jennhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12795013215115658011noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27849118.post-32409264820513413582011-12-30T07:05:23.237-08:002011-12-30T07:05:23.237-08:00Tips, thanks for writing so candidly about this. I...Tips, thanks for writing so candidly about this. I for one have struggled internally with sometimes feeling that I have "let down" my gender by choosing to stop working and start cooking ... and that's nothing compared to the "disappointment vibes" or just plain looks of disgust I get from others re: my decision (including family members, believe it or not). <br /><br />Like you, cooking gives me something -- peace, a creative outlet, whatever -- that working didn't. "Spot of grace" was simply spot on -- do you mind if I make it my mantra?<br /><br />Keep up the good work!Kitchen Ninjahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03978003037474284948noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27849118.post-67090229790217298872011-12-28T02:58:06.835-08:002011-12-28T02:58:06.835-08:00I agree with most of the comments here, especially...I agree with most of the comments here, especially the ones that say live and let live. I've done most every combination of single, married, with and without kids, working outside the home or not. Some days I know I wouldn't have it in me to bake - other days, I'd be sending cream napoleons. Does not strictly depend on the level of paid work but on a variety of things. Thank God my kids are old enough now to turn out a batch of cookies themselves.<br /><br />But mostly I just wanted to say hi Tipsy from sunny New Zealand. I have spent the the last two days recovering from a cold and catching up on the last three years of your splendid blog and got to that sad place where there is no 'newer post' link. But at last I feel like I can join in the conversation :)Ardishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03425350017630583113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27849118.post-46540827964795326832011-12-27T20:30:00.434-08:002011-12-27T20:30:00.434-08:00The REAL feminist stance is that the onus should n...The REAL feminist stance is that the onus should not be on the mother to participate in bake sales. It should be a great way for parents of any gender who love to bake to contribute. Non-bakers, save your energy for another activity or else make a cash donation. Do not sully the bake sale table with your hastily unwrapped storebought wares. <br /><br />Waldman is guilty of a subtle but insidious and common form of sexism here...dismissing something as of no value because it is coded as a female activity in our society.Jellykkahttp://blog.jellykka.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27849118.post-10247197266580160772011-12-27T18:57:59.545-08:002011-12-27T18:57:59.545-08:001) I've been in the public school system for 4...1) I've been in the public school system for 4 years and have never been asked to contribute to a bake sale.<br /><br />2) Good thing because I didn't know that you couldn't bring packaged goods.<br /><br />3) I did participate in a church cookie exchange and discovered that you're not really supposed to bring cookies made from the frozen dough kids sell door to door. (What else am I supposed to do with the dough then?!) I guess I cheated the people who took my cookies.<br /><br />4) Despite my general cluelessness regarding baking social norms, I *did* feel guilty regarding a project my daughter had in kindergarten. Her teacher asked us to send in family recipes to be compiled into a class cookbook. I submitted my grandmother's Chinese potsticker recipe. A week later, the teacher announced a party where we were supposed to make the food and bring it to class. There was no way that I had time to hand fold enough potstickers for 30 kids and have them pan fried/steamed by 8am. So I bought frozen potstickers from Trader Joe's. I did feel guilty though, especially when some of the volunteer Moms told me how good they were.Azurehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06476778039057168808noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27849118.post-17544460048772402952011-12-27T06:54:57.663-08:002011-12-27T06:54:57.663-08:00Wonderful post, Jennifer. I just received your boo...Wonderful post, Jennifer. I just received your book for Christmas (it was on my list!), and this was my first visit to your blog. I'm so happy I found you. I always enjoyed your work for EW.Hollyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09889527146211783864noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27849118.post-69068638327746486092011-12-26T08:57:10.084-08:002011-12-26T08:57:10.084-08:00I'm a surgeon and Associate Professor at a tea...I'm a surgeon and Associate Professor at a teaching hospital - and I love to bake & share the goodies! The concept that this is anti-feminist just because it is traditionally female is ridiculous - like throwing out the baby with the bathwater. I worked hard to get where I am in a very male dominated field; I see no incongruity here.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27849118.post-91961886580788974892011-12-26T05:18:39.650-08:002011-12-26T05:18:39.650-08:00I just bought your book for my husband for Christm...I just bought your book for my husband for Christmas, found reference to your blog inside and checked it out. Love this article. I have been a stay at home mom for many years, bake and cook from scratch, yes, raised chickens and prefer my career as a homemaker over any other. I recently started working full time while my husband returns to school and I certainly have more understanding for the full time working moms who don't do it all from scratch. I appreciate your comments on this subject, couldn't agree more. Women have been told for years that staying at home keeps them down and is anti-feminist. What baloney! If a woman wants to work outside the home go for it, but I'll take the freedom and joy of staying at home over being chained to a desk and being told when I can take my coffee break any day.As for baking being sexist, my husband bakes and is good enough that at the potlucks people ask what he brought and make a beeline for it. It's always the first thing gone. Neither of us would ever entertain the thought of taking store bought food to a bake sale.Kathleen Gracehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11551093555973581448noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27849118.post-51087124538781082952011-12-23T14:32:39.829-08:002011-12-23T14:32:39.829-08:00That's the same recipe I have used, except you...That's the same recipe I have used, except you can also roll in melted white chocolate, which is also good. And you also need to use a standard size food processor for the mixing process, it does not work as well in the blender.Margaretnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27849118.post-87851201450687146112011-12-23T10:26:28.855-08:002011-12-23T10:26:28.855-08:00Is there a particular recipe for oreo balls that y...Is there a particular recipe for oreo balls that you recommend? I think we're going to make this one: http://whatscookingamerica.net/Candy/OreoTruffleBalls.htmtipsybakerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13796856700365644779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27849118.post-75932407175866391992011-12-23T08:42:16.385-08:002011-12-23T08:42:16.385-08:00OMG, oreo balls ARE life changing...and while I li...OMG, oreo balls ARE life changing...and while I like to cook and bake, I really don't like bakery, so if I'm saying that you know these have to be good.Margaretnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27849118.post-66298511861270200852011-12-23T06:36:38.323-08:002011-12-23T06:36:38.323-08:00I was raised by a single mom, 3 kids, barely any s...I was raised by a single mom, 3 kids, barely any support once the man decided responsibilty was too much and who also worked 60+ hours most week. Not only did she manage to contribute to many a bake sale, with homemade treats, but most of my friends wanted to be at my house for all the goodies she was so well known for (or the lack of parental supervision, still trying to figure that out...). She was also often found setting out the chairs and lugging the trash at those events, making up for the lack of man contribution. With 3 of my own, I still look back and wonder how in the heck she did it all. She loved her family and her community more than life itself. <br /><br />I think if cooking is what brings you joy and you can consider it a minute to yourself, rather than a chore, then bake sales are not that big of a deal. If tucking yourself away in a corner on a laptop, posting ridiculous comments and ignoring the rest of the world is your way to get a minute to yourself, then don't be mad when the rest of the world complains.<br /><br />I found this blog looking for a Christmas gift for a foodie and found the book and the blog, linking to the NYT article. I will be forwarding this to my mother who will no doubt get a kick out of it. She would be appalled and likely disown us if we wouldn't take an hour out of our time (at MOST) to contribute to our various communities when asked. EVen at once a month, if I can find time for all the other crap I do, it wouldn't be too much. <br /><br />To the reader who will send Oreo's in a bag *gasp*, try making Oreo balls sometime...the kids will love you double for it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com